[scribus] Master pages not working as expected (Gregory Pittman)

[Mark Cornwell]

You may have to submit a bug with an attached document, since I'm not sure

what you're doing. One mistake people make is to put a frame in a Master
Page, then try to add content in their document, but you cannot edit content
except in Master Page mode, in which case all of the instances of that
Master Page are changed.

Something you can do is to make your frames in some sort of layout, in

regular editing mode, then select them all (hold down Shift while you click
them one by one), copy them (Ctrl+C), then paste (Ctrl+V) on some other
page, in which case each frame will have the same coordinates as it had on
the page you copied from.

Greg

Greg, thanks, I carried on researching after sending the enquiry. You're
right I was making that "mistake" - I had understood a master page to
function like master pages in other tools: you can design one with graphics
(e.g. logo to be on all pages) but when you design a "holding space" on the
page you can then subsequently fill it in a "real" page. Master pages are
templates in most products but it seems in Scribus they are little more than
things that you can trace your actual design over. There's little point in
doing that if one can't "snap to shape". The whole point of using a master
is to ensure that things are positioned exactly each time.

The alternative of a scrapbook is also not ideal because you can't scrapbook
a "whole page" as I understand it. If one could that might be a fair
workaround.

Your suggestion for making (effectively) blank pages in the book and
copy/pasting is sort of what I had anticipated Master Pages would be - but
without the copy/paste.

It seems the design of Scribus in this regard is far from ideal.

Thanks for helping me understand it.

Mark



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[Peter Nermander]

Post by Mark Cornwell
The alternative of a scrapbook is also not ideal because you can't
scrapbook
a "whole page" as I understand it. If one could that might be a fair
workaround.

Yes you can. Just select all the content on the page and send it to the
Scrapbook.

/Peter
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[Gregory Pittman]

Post by Mark Cornwell

You may have to submit a bug with an attached document, since I'm not sure

what you're doing. One mistake people make is to put a frame in a Master
Page, then try to add content in their document, but you cannot edit content
except in Master Page mode, in which case all of the instances of that
Master Page are changed.

Something you can do is to make your frames in some sort of layout, in

regular editing mode, then select them all (hold down Shift while you click
them one by one), copy them (Ctrl+C), then paste (Ctrl+V) on some other
page, in which case each frame will have the same coordinates as it had on
the page you copied from.

Greg

Greg, thanks, I carried on researching after sending the enquiry. You're
right I was making that "mistake" - I had understood a master page to
function like master pages in other tools: you can design one with graphics
(e.g. logo to be on all pages) but when you design a "holding space" on the
page you can then subsequently fill it in a "real" page. Master pages are
templates in most products but it seems in Scribus they are little more than
things that you can trace your actual design over. There's little point in
doing that if one can't "snap to shape". The whole point of using a master
is to ensure that things are positioned exactly each time.
The alternative of a scrapbook is also not ideal because you can't scrapbook
a "whole page" as I understand it. If one could that might be a fair
workaround.
Your suggestion for making (effectively) blank pages in the book and
copy/pasting is sort of what I had anticipated Master Pages would be - but
without the copy/paste.
It seems the design of Scribus in this regard is far from ideal.

As I've said many times on the list, there are many ways of doing things
in Scribus.

There are the Scripter commands, copyObject() and pasteObject():

https://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/CopyObject()_and_pasteObject()

which, in your example, would require grouping the selected objects
before running such a script, then ungrouping after. Although I haven't
tried them, there are commands, groupObjects() and unGroupObject() that
could be incorporated into a script to do this automatically. (not sure
if the second command is unGroupObject() or unGroupObjects(), since the
manual is confused about this).

Another approach: Since you know about guides, these can be set up,
after which you can automatically size an object to the space between
guides -- for a text frame, for example, click the Text Frame icon on
the toolbar, then hold down Shift while clicking inside the space and
the frame automatically fills to the nearest guide or margin in all 4
directions.

Greg


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[Gregory Pittman]

Post by Gregory Pittman
https://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/CopyObject()_and_pasteObject()
which, in your example, would require grouping the selected objects
before running such a script, then ungrouping after. Although I haven't
tried them, there are commands, groupObjects() and unGroupObject() that
could be incorporated into a script to do this automatically. (not sure
if the second command is unGroupObject() or unGroupObjects(), since the
manual is confused about this).

According to cmdmani.h, it's unGroupObjects()

Greg


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