[Scribus] cannot select text in PDF created from Scribus

[unknown]

Hello,

I have just installed Scribus for Windows - thank you for making this software available. I am
working on a 1.3.3.1 version with default setup. I find that when I enter some text in Scribus
and then make it into PDF, the text in PDF cannot be selected and copied.

I'd appreciate information as to what I may be doing wrong.

There is an option that I miss - namely - is there a way to export all text from scribus file as
simple text? I find it useful at times and cannot do it unless I edit it text box, copy text and
paste into a word processing software.

Thanks a lot for your help!

Warm regards,

[unknown]

Hi Zbigniew,

Post by unknown
Hello,
I have just installed Scribus for Windows - thank you for making this
software available. I am working on a 1.3.3.1 version with default setup. I
find that when I enter some text in Scribus and then make it into PDF, the
text in PDF cannot be selected and copied.

Have you embedded all fonts at export time?

Post by unknown
I'd appreciate information as to what I may be doing wrong.
There is an option that I miss - namely - is there a way to export all text
from scribus file as simple text? I find it useful at times and cannot do
it unless I edit it text box, copy text and paste into a word processing
software.

You can export text from a selected frame by using "File > Export > Save Text"
or in the Story Editor via "File > Save to file"

Post by unknown
Thanks a lot for your help!
Warm regards,

HTH,

Christoph

[unknown]

Post by unknown
Hello,
I have just installed Scribus for Windows - thank you for making
this software available. I am working on a 1.3.3.1 version with
default setup. I find that when I enter some text in Scribus and
then make it into PDF, the text in PDF cannot be selected and
copied.
I'd appreciate information as to what I may be doing wrong.

Nothing wrong.

Scribus text in PDF is optimized for exact placement of text within
the PDF, which comes at a cost of not being easy to select from
Acrobat Reader or other PDF viewers.

Post by unknown
There is an option that I miss - namely - is there a way to export
all text from scribus file as simple text? I find it useful at
times and cannot do it unless I edit it text box, copy text and
paste into a word processing software.
Thanks a lot for your help!
Warm regards,

You can directly export text from frames into a plain text file. You
can link the frames within Scribus and then all the text will export
in a single go.

Hope that helps,
Peter

[unknown]

Hello!

Post by unknown
Have you embedded all fonts at export time?

No, I seem to have a problem doing that. When I select "Available fonts" (please notice I am
using the Polish translation so the exact English commands may vary) or "Font subsets to be
nested" and click the add buttons, nothings happen. I have no idea why.

[unknown]

Hello,

Post by unknown
Nothing wrong.
Scribus text in PDF is optimized for exact placement of text within
the PDF, which comes at a cost of not being easy to select from

OK. Does it mean it is never possible? Or in some cases not possible. I was playing with a
plain design containing one text field with simple text, nothing else.

Post by unknown
You can directly export text from frames into a plain text file. You
can link the frames within Scribus and then all the text will export
in a single go.

Does the N shortcut function as a tool linking frames? I selected two text boxes, pressed N
and then tried to export but only the content of one text box was written to a file.

Anyway, the export function is a bit strange as it never warns if I want to overwrite an existing
text file. I played with both creating and overwriting text files but same result each time.

Thank you anyway for such a fast response! I really appreciate it! Especially that I
desperately wish to divorce MS Publisher and marry Scribus, only that bride is giving me
some rough time ;)

Warm regards,

Zbigniew Szalbot

[unknown]

Hi Zbigniew,

Post by unknown
Hello,

Post by unknown
Nothing wrong.
Scribus text in PDF is optimized for exact placement of text within
the PDF, which comes at a cost of not being easy to select from

OK. Does it mean it is never possible? Or in some cases not possible. I was
playing with a plain design containing one text field with simple text,
nothing else.

If you embed all fonts, it should work. At least it does under Linux.

Post by unknown

Post by unknown
You can directly export text from frames into a plain text file. You
can link the frames within Scribus and then all the text will export
in a single go.

Does the N shortcut function as a tool linking frames? I selected two text
boxes, pressed N and then tried to export but only the content of one text
box was written to a file.

You link frames by selecting the first frame. Then use the link tool in the
menu bar, finally select the frame you want to link to.

Post by unknown
Anyway, the export function is a bit strange as it never warns if I want to
overwrite an existing text file. I played with both creating and
overwriting text files but same result each time.

Yes, this needs fixing.

Post by unknown
Thank you anyway for such a fast response! I really appreciate it!
Especially that I desperately wish to divorce MS Publisher and marry
Scribus, only that bride is giving me some rough time ;)

As in real life ;)

Post by unknown
Warm regards,
Zbigniew Szalbot

Cheers,

Christoph

[unknown]

Hello again,

Post by unknown
If you embed all fonts, it should work. At least it does under Linux.

OK. From what othere are saying it seems that it currently does not work under Windows.

Post by unknown
You link frames by selecting the first frame. Then use the link tool
in the menu bar, finally select the frame you want to link to.

Yes, I am probably doing something wrong, but I select the first frame, press N, point the
next frame and then I get a warning message that I am trying to link a frame to a full frame or
to the same frame. Thanks for clarification.

Warm regards,

[unknown]

Post by unknown
Hello again,

Post by unknown
If you embed all fonts, it should work. At least it does under Linux.

OK. From what othere are saying it seems that it currently does not work under Windows.

Post by unknown
You link frames by selecting the first frame. Then use the link tool
in the menu bar, finally select the frame you want to link to.

Yes, I am probably doing something wrong, but I select the first frame,
press N, point the next frame and then I get a warning message that I am
trying to link a frame to a full frame or to the same frame. Thanks for
clarification.

Did you try to link a manually created text frame with an automatically
created one?

In this case, see:

http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=1592

http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=2673

It's a known bug.

Post by unknown
Warm regards,

Cheers,

Christoph

[unknown]

Hi there again,

Post by unknown
Did you try to link a manually created text frame with an
automatically created one?

No, I start a new document, press T, draw a frame, double click, type something, click
outside the box, repeat the process for another frame, press N, select the other frame and
the warning message appears.

Thanks for your patience!


Warm regards,

Zbigniew Szalbot

[unknown]

Post by unknown
Hi there again,

Post by unknown
Did you try to link a manually created text frame with an
automatically created one?

No, I start a new document, press T, draw a frame, double click, type
something, click outside the box, repeat the process for another frame,
press N, select the other frame and the warning message appears.
Thanks for your patience!

Hi Zbigniew,

I think I finally figured out what you are doing wrong. Both frames you want
to link contain text, don't they? In this case, you can't link them. Linking
means letting text flow from one frame to another. So if you want to export
all text from your document, and this text resides in different frames, You
have to export the content of each frame separately. The exception are linked
frames, but this is continuously flowing text.

I have to admit that the error message is quite confusing, though.

Post by unknown
Warm regards,
Zbigniew Szalbot

HTH,

Christoph

[unknown]

Post by unknown
Hello again,

Post by unknown
If you embed all fonts, it should work. At least it does under Linux.

OK. From what othere are saying it seems that it currently does not work under Windows.

<snip>

Let's be clear - embedding on Win32 works... There is no bug.

It depends on the fonts.

Where folks get fooled is the large majority of fonts which are
shipped with Windows XP and Windows 2000 are in fact True Type/Open
Type Fonts. They have a .ttf file extention, but examine them closer
and they are Open Type fonts.

Open Type fonts cannot be fully embedded, but are converted to
outlines upon export. This is to allow Open Type to work with PDF 1.3
among other reasons.

I just tested this because of a bug report and I can say definitively
you *can* embed fonts on Win32 - both some True Type and all Type 1
fonts.

On one level, the Open Type format can be thought of as a 'wrapper'
around both Type Type font internals *and* postscript outlines.
Also, an Open Type font can in theory contain both.

That is greatly oversimplifying the features of Open Type fonts. Most
of the Open Type fonts which contain postscript outlines usually have
an .otf extention.

Yep, clear as mud :)

A primer on different font formats:
http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/opentype/index_font_formats.html

Hope that helps,

Peter

[unknown]

Post by unknown
Hello!

Post by unknown
Have you embedded all fonts at export time?

No, I seem to have a problem doing that. When I
select "Available fonts" (please notice I am
using the Polish translation so the exact English
commands may vary) or "Font subsets to be
nested" and click the add buttons, nothings happen.
I have no idea why.

Hi Zbigniew and welcome to the Scribus mailing list,
you've just discovered your first Scribus bug, I
guess. From what I've just seen in Scribus 1.3.3.1 for
Windows, your cannot embed fonts -- neither checking
"embed all fonts" nor moving manually moving the to
the "Fonts to embed" field seems to work.

A nice insect for our bugtracker bugs.scribus.net
(temporarily down due to upgrade).

Pozdrowienia
Maciej Hanski



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[unknown]

Post by unknown
Hello,
I have just installed Scribus for Windows - thank you for making this software available. I am
working on a 1.3.3.1 version with default setup. I find that when I enter some text in Scribus
and then make it into PDF, the text in PDF cannot be selected and copied.

This sounds like you haven't found Story Editor -- should be able to do
all the editing you need without external files/programs. Especially if
you use Styles, it is quite flexible and much easier than working with
text on the finished page.

The whole idea with Scribus is to do all your editing of text, images,
and so forth in Scribus. Making a PDF is for your final, print-ready output.

Greg