[scribus] InDesign to Scribus

[mt]

Greetings all,

I am considering Scribus after recently losing my HD (although
not my user data) and becoming "orphaned" of the Adobe CS 5
suite of applications. Having never enjoyed Adobe products, nor
their lousy "service", I'm taking this 'problem' as a great
opportunity to try something different. And nothing beats
Scribus price-wise of course!

Must confess though I am a bit worried about the transition, so
here are a few real novice questions:

- How steep a learning curve should I expect? In other words
-will it take hours, days or weeks (for an 'old dog' who used to
be a relatively fast learner) to get used to Scribus?

- During one of the searches I ran on duckduckgo, I remember
coming across a tutorial that highlighted the differences
between Scribus and InDesign/QuarXpress. Apparently I did not
bookmark it and don't seem to be able to find it any more. Any
bells ringing...?

- I have InDesign files for a few manuals, as well as the
resulting PDFs ready for printing. Individual chapters also
exist in .doc format, minus some of the editing and a lot of the
formatting. Is there any way to extract and convert to Scribus
any of the formatting information from the PDF or InDesign files
-especially margins and styles?

Thanking you in advance,

Ciao for now :-)

marina
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Italy or Australia
MacBook Pro 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5, OS X 10.9.5
MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, OS X 10.6.8
www.mtadiello.com @martadiello


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[Duleep Samuel]

Dear Marina
you can see a comparision among DTP programs

http://www.laidout.org/dtpcompare.html

- How steep a learning curve should I expect? In other words -will it take
hours, days or weeks (for an 'old dog' who used to be a relatively fast
learner) to get used to Scribus?

within 2 weeks you will be definitely a pro

- During one of the searches I ran on duckduckgo, I remember coming across
a tutorial that highlighted the differences between Scribus and
InDesign/QuarXpress. Apparently I did not bookmark it and don't seem to be
able to find it any more. Any bells ringing...?

I cant locate this file

- I have InDesign files for a few manuals, as well as the resulting PDFs
ready for printing. Individual chapters also exist in .doc format, minus
some of the editing and a lot of the formatting. Is there any way to
extract and convert to Scribus any of the formatting information from the
PDF or InDesign files -especially margins and styles?

that cant be actually predicted, convert to scribus maynot work to your
full satisfaction, regards, Samuel, Bangalore, India

Post by mt
Greetings all,
I am considering Scribus after recently losing my HD (although not my user
data) and becoming "orphaned" of the Adobe CS 5 suite of applications.
Having never enjoyed Adobe products, nor their lousy "service", I'm taking
this 'problem' as a great opportunity to try something different. And
nothing beats Scribus price-wise of course!
Must confess though I am a bit worried about the transition, so here are a
- How steep a learning curve should I expect? In other words -will it take
hours, days or weeks (for an 'old dog' who used to be a relatively fast
learner) to get used to Scribus?
- During one of the searches I ran on duckduckgo, I remember coming across
a tutorial that highlighted the differences between Scribus and
InDesign/QuarXpress. Apparently I did not bookmark it and don't seem to be
able to find it any more. Any bells ringing...?
- I have InDesign files for a few manuals, as well as the resulting PDFs
ready for printing. Individual chapters also exist in .doc format, minus
some of the editing and a lot of the formatting. Is there any way to
extract and convert to Scribus any of the formatting information from the
PDF or InDesign files -especially margins and styles?
Thanking you in advance,
Ciao for now :-)
marina
---
Italy or Australia
MacBook Pro 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5, OS X 10.9.5
MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, OS X 10.6.8
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[JLuc]

Hello

DTP principles are about the same in Xpress, In Design and Scribus.

Best is : try and see.
The biggest changes will be shortcuts and user interface.
It wont take long before you can use scribus and it wont take much
longer before you know all you need to know.

Furthermore, Scribus 1.5 will be released in a couple of month.
This unstable version will provide tools that might help you
to deal with your old documents :
- excellent PDF import
- basic InDesign import

JL

Post by mt
Greetings all,
I am considering Scribus after recently losing my HD (although not my user data) and becoming "orphaned" of the Adobe CS
5 suite of applications. Having never enjoyed Adobe products, nor their lousy "service", I'm taking this 'problem' as a
great opportunity to try something different. And nothing beats Scribus price-wise of course!
- How steep a learning curve should I expect? In other words -will it take hours, days or weeks (for an 'old dog' who
used to be a relatively fast learner) to get used to Scribus?
- During one of the searches I ran on duckduckgo, I remember coming across a tutorial that highlighted the differences
between Scribus and InDesign/QuarXpress. Apparently I did not bookmark it and don't seem to be able to find it any more.
Any bells ringing...?
- I have InDesign files for a few manuals, as well as the resulting PDFs ready for printing. Individual chapters also
exist in .doc format, minus some of the editing and a lot of the formatting. Is there any way to extract and convert to
Scribus any of the formatting information from the PDF or InDesign files -especially margins and styles?
Thanking you in advance,
Ciao for now :-)
marina
---
Italy or Australia
MacBook Pro 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5, OS X 10.9.5
MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, OS X 10.6.8
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[J. F. Lemaire]

Post by JLuc
This unstable version will provide tools that might help you

Not sure the term "unstable" gave marina much confidence to try it ;-)

Cheers,
JFL

[Christoph Schäfer]

Ciao Marina,

Post by mt
Must confess though I am a bit worried about the transition, so
- How steep a learning curve should I expect? In other words
-will it take hours, days or weeks (for an 'old dog' who used to
be a relatively fast learner) to get used to Scribus?

Hours for the basics (including consulting the included documentation and especially the "Get Started" chapter), days to figure out the details (as well as Scribus's still existing quirks, but also its advantages), weeks to let you forget your InDesign habits.

Post by mt
- I have InDesign files for a few manuals, as well as the
resulting PDFs ready for printing. Individual chapters also
exist in .doc format, minus some of the editing and a lot of the
formatting. Is there any way to extract and convert to Scribus
any of the formatting information from the PDF or InDesign files
-especially margins and styles?

As JLuc already wrote, the next version of Scribus will provide an InDesign import filter, but only for IDML and IDMS (ID snippets) files, *not* for INDD files. I suggest you download a trial version of ID CS 6 and convert all INDD files to IDML during the trial period. If you want to use the old output with Scribus 1.4.x, you can try opening the PDF files.

Regarding styles in both InDesign and Word Documents, I strongly recommend the use of LibreOffice (LO). From InDesign you can export to XHTML, which can be opened by LO. The same goes for Word documents. You can save both formats as ODT files, which Scribus can import with styles and formatting (mostly) intact.

Unfortunately, margins cannot be imported that way, so you need to re-create them manually in 1.4.x.



HTH,


Christoph

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[mt]

Many thanks Christoph, Samuel, Jean-Luc and Jean-François :-)

For some mysterious reason, I was able to get InDesign to work
yesterday - so I will take your suggestion and wait for next
version of Scribus, so as to have the time to get used to it
before being 'forced' to use it.

Old habits are hard to change, so I'll have to see how
successful my current writer app (Nisus Writer Pro) is at saving
.ods files. I use OpenOffice regularly and extensively for
spreadsheets, but am not sure I want to move to it (or
LibreOffice) for writing.

Anyway, it's great to know about Scribus, and thank you for
being so nice and willing to help!

Ciao for now :-)

marina
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Italy or Australia
MacBook Pro 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5, OS X 10.9.5
MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, OS X 10.6.8
www.mtadiello.com @martadiello


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[Peter Nermander]

For some mysterious reason, I was able to get InDesign to work yesterday -

so I will take your suggestion and wait for next version of Scribus, so as
to have the time to get used to it before being 'forced' to use it.

Now, while you have ID working, make sure to re-save all your old documents
in a format that Scribus will be able to import.

You might also consider to "export" the contents from your old ID
documents. Copy the texts to text files, save the images as image files in
separate folders and take notes of margins and other figures. The reason is
that you can not always rely on import filters to work flawlessly,
sometimes there will be features that are not compatible between programs.
In such cases you will need to "rebuild" your documents from scratch, and
having the content separetly saved makes it easier.

Also rebuilding your documents in Scribus is an excellent way to learn to
use Scribus.

/Peter
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