[scribus] scribus Digest, Vol 128, Issue 4

[Håkan Löfgren]

Re: message 4

About Eric Tripp and his shared photo album. What is the connection to Scribus?

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Håkan Löfgren

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Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 04:28:04 +0000
From: Eric Tripp <***@hotmail.com><mailto:***@hotmail.com>
Subject: [scribus] Eric Tripp shared a photo album with you (Via
Google Photos)
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Open Photo Album - Google Photos<http://bcsemnizhzz3vvqtrtqksriwhry7an.gr.gp/><http://bcsemnizhzz3vvqtrtqksriwhry7an.gr.gp/>


View Photo Album - Google Photos

Google Photos - Google Inc. 2018





With kind regards
Eric
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[Gregory Pittman]

Post by Håkan Löfgren
Re: message 4
About Eric Tripp and his shared photo album. What is the connection to Scribus?
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Håkan Löfgren

I assume this is scam/spam - I looked at the link but didn't enter any info to see the pictures.

Greg


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[Colin Madwolf]

It's no secret that the Drop Shadow pane sucks. It's often unresponsive and unnecessarily complicated to use. IIRC, Franz introduced the current layout a while back just for testing purposes, and ever since it seems no-one found the time to revert it back to its original layout, which was more in line with rest of the UI.

Well here’s hoping it gets changed soon- anything that saves a mouse click is worth it.

An Update on the spinning ball of death:

I was still experiencing the spinning ball when working on the supposed clean file that I created afresh in Scribus. So, I was trying to select a small frame and found it difficult - I then switched on ‘make frame edges visible’ - OMG what is that frame overlapping two pages doing there !!!

It was on one of the Master pages and must have got there buy a Select All process when copying frames form the IDML files

Now deleted, I have a very responsive Scribus again

I have a long experience with DTP that goes back to before computers, and I still maintain that there is ALWAYS a reason why these problems occur. You just have to look for the problem

Keep up the good work

kind regards
Colin


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[Gregory Pittman]

Post by Colin Madwolf

It's no secret that the Drop Shadow pane sucks. It's often unresponsive and unnecessarily complicated to use. IIRC, Franz introduced the current layout a while back just for testing purposes, and ever since it seems no-one found the time to revert it back to its original layout, which was more in line with rest of the UI.

Well here’s hoping it gets changed soon- anything that saves a mouse click is worth it.
I was still experiencing the spinning ball when working on the supposed clean file that I created afresh in Scribus. So, I was trying to select a small frame and found it difficult - I then switched on ‘make frame edges visible’ - OMG what is that frame overlapping two pages doing there !!!
It was on one of the Master pages and must have got there buy a Select All process when copying frames form the IDML files

Hi Colin,

I usually keep the frames visible at all times. If I want to see how the page looks without them, I click Preview Mode from the toolbar (note that you can't edit while in Preview Mode).

Greg


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[Colin Madwolf]

I don't know if it's possible, but it would be more convenient if the item was selected (highlighted) simply by hovering over it. This is how most of the spin-boxes work -- you just hover over them and use the mouse wheel to change the value.

Yes agreed. Two other particularly annoying issues:

1. When editing text in a text frame and then clicking on an image frame I would expect the frame edges to be highlighted so that I can then move the frame or adjust its’s shape etc., - instead the box is tinted blue with the move image within frame selected. This necessitates moving the mouse outside the box and yet two more clicks to get the frame highlighted - annoying!

2. Image scaling: when working on a magazine article image frames often have similar scaling for the images within them, and image frames can be cloned and copied - however, every time a new image is inserted into a frame, it defaults to 100% instead of the inherited frame aspect - which is how I would expect it to happen. This then necessitates lots of clicks to reset the image scaling to the one it was copied from.

Hope this helps
Colin
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[Gregory Pittman]

Post by Colin Madwolf

I don't know if it's possible, but it would be more convenient if the item was selected (highlighted) simply by hovering over it. This is how most of the spin-boxes work -- you just hover over them and use the mouse wheel to change the value.

1. When editing text in a text frame and then clicking on an image frame I would expect the frame edges to be highlighted so that I can then move the frame or adjust its’s shape etc., - instead the box is tinted blue with the move image within frame selected. This necessitates moving the mouse outside the box and yet two more clicks to get the frame highlighted - annoying!

What's happening is that you have activated Edit Contents mode in the text frame, and it stays in that mode when you click straight to the image frame. The simplest way to avoid this is to click outside all frames (which reverts to Select Item mode), then the image frame.

Post by Colin Madwolf
2. Image scaling: when working on a magazine article image frames often have similar scaling for the images within them, and image frames can be cloned and copied - however, every time a new image is inserted into a frame, it defaults to 100% instead of the inherited frame aspect - which is how I would expect it to happen. This then necessitates lots of clicks to reset the image scaling to the one it was copied from.

If you are scaling to frame size, it will stay in that when you load a new image. Note that you can set the default behavior for frames in Preferences > Item Tools > Images, in case that might be helpful. Otherwise, it's a matter of looking at the Scaling of the image in Properties before you load a new image.

Greg


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[JLuc]

Post by Gregory Pittman

Post by Colin Madwolf
2. Image scaling: when working on a magazine article image frames often have similar scaling for the images within them, and image frames can be cloned and copied - however, every time a new image is inserted into a frame, it defaults to 100% instead of the inherited frame aspect - which is how I would expect it to happen. This then necessitates lots of clicks to reset the image scaling to the one it was copied from.

If you are scaling to frame size, it will stay in that when you load a new image. Note that you can set the default behavior for frames in Preferences > Item Tools > Images, in case that might be helpful. Otherwise, it's a matter of looking at the Scaling of the image in Properties before you load a new image.

I agree with Colin that there is a usability issue when loading a new image into an image frame.
Most of the time i wish the scale would not change.
The report is there :
https://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12253

JL


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[Gregory Pittman]

Post by JLuc

Post by Gregory Pittman

2. Image scaling:  when working on a magazine article image frames often have similar scaling for the images within them, and image frames can be cloned and copied  - however, every time a new image is inserted into a frame, it defaults to 100% instead of the inherited frame aspect - which is how I would expect it to happen.  This then necessitates lots of clicks to reset the image scaling to the one it was copied from.

If you are scaling to frame size, it will stay in that when you load a new image. Note that you can set the default behavior for frames in Preferences > Item Tools > Images, in case that might be helpful. Otherwise, it's a matter of looking at the Scaling of the image in Properties before you load a new image.

I agree with Colin that there is a usability issue when loading a new image into an image frame.
Most of the time i wish the scale would not change.
https://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12253

I've written a script, retainscaling.py that manages this issue. It's actually quite simple. After some error checking to make sure there is only one frame and it's an image frame, its scaling is obtained.
A file dialog opens to choose a new image file. The file is loaded and the scaling set to the previous settings.

Greg

#!/usr/bin/env python
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-

"""
retainscaling.py

USAGE
You must have a single image frame selected. Its scaling is noted.
A file dialog opens to load a new image. New image is loaded, scaling set to
same as previous image.

"""

try:
import scribus
except ImportError:
print "Unable to import the 'scribus' module. This script will only run within"
print "the Python interpreter embedded in Scribus. Try Script->Execute Script."
sys.exit(1)

if scribus.selectionCount() != 1:
scribus.messageBox('Selection Count', "You must have a frame selected",
scribus.ICON_WARNING, scribus.BUTTON_OK)
sys.exit(2)

frame1 = scribus.getSelectedObject()
ftype1 = scribus.getObjectType(frame1)
if (ftype1 != "ImageFrame"):
scribus.messageBox('Object Type', "Selected object must be an image frame",
scribus.ICON_WARNING, scribus.BUTTON_OK)
sys.exit(2)

scribus.setRedraw(False)
currentscale = scribus.getImageScale(frame1) # this returns a tuple x,y
newimage = scribus.fileDialog('Get Image', 'Image file (*.*)')
scribus.loadImage(newimage, frame1)
scribus.setImageScale(currentscale[0], currentscale[1], frame1)

scribus.setRedraw(True)


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[ale rimoldi]

hi

Post by Colin Madwolf
1. When editing text in a text frame and then clicking on an image
frame I would expect the frame edges to be highlighted so that I can
then move the frame or adjust its’s shape etc., - instead the box is
tinted blue with the move image within frame selected. This
necessitates moving the mouse outside the box and yet two more clicks
to get the frame highlighted - annoying!

i think that i mostly agree with you there...

personally, i don't expect scribus to stay in edit mode when i click on
a different frame.

for text frame it is somehow useful to click on a different frame and
still being in edit mode.
for image frames and other shapes, i'm really not sure that it's a good
thing.

if you have a plan about how it change that behavior and an explanation
that can convince the team to go for it, please fill a ticket!

for the short term, it might be useful to learn about the ESC key...
with it you can easily quit the edit mode...

Post by Colin Madwolf
2. Image scaling: when working on a magazine article image frames
often have similar scaling for the images within them, and image
frames can be cloned and copied - however, every time a new image is
inserted into a frame, it defaults to 100% instead of the inherited
frame aspect - which is how I would expect it to happen. This then
necessitates lots of clicks to reset the image scaling to the one it
was copied from.

this has been requested multiple times...

https://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=12253

i'm working on a further patch to make it easy to manually reset the
image frame settings.
and then ask for making the non resizing the default...
... but it's not so easy to manage how the undo system works : - (

ciao
a.l.e

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