[scribus] scribus Digest, Vol 128, Issue 3

[Colin Madwolf]

Hi Colin,
Since I don't have any way of generating IDML files, I have never had a chance to try out importing them. I have imported PDF pages, and while this works, what this gives you is a group of groups of vector objects. AT the lowest level of ungrouping, even the font glyphs are vectors. Text can be exported from Adobe Reader if that's an option.
One of the problems with these import methods is that you still may end up with something that is not any more usable for the future.
Greg

Hi Greg

Well, on the face of it IDML imported files load quickly considering the size of the file and look relatively normal compared to the InDesign file - of course the fonts are not the same, but the frames and text AND the images are all there and can all be used and modified as if it was a native Scribus file.

So, I was not expecting any problems at all !!

So lesson learnt - IDML is a useful way of extracting information from an InDesign file - but not a recommended way of producing a workable finished Scribus file

I am very happy to report back now - that ALL images with drop shadows are visible and there is NO beach ball of death anymore.

I am still struggling with the interface, I am one of those people who likes to use less clicks of the mouse if possible. In the drop shadow pane it takes TWO clicks to tick the tick boxes - WHY? I have also noted that when trying to add an outline to text in the Paragraph/character styles editor, the outline colour does not appear highlighted at the bottom, so you cannot select the colour - you have to go back and open the window again - outlines work fine in the text pane though.

Still better than Adobe though :-)

kind regards
Colin
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[Gregory Pittman]

Post by Colin Madwolf

Hi Colin,
Since I don't have any way of generating IDML files, I have never had a chance to try out importing them. I have imported PDF pages, and while this works, what this gives you is a group of groups of vector objects. AT the lowest level of ungrouping, even the font glyphs are vectors. Text can be exported from Adobe Reader if that's an option.
One of the problems with these import methods is that you still may end up with something that is not any more usable for the future.
Greg

Hi Greg
Well, on the face of it IDML imported files load quickly considering the size of the file and look relatively normal compared to the InDesign file - of course the fonts are not the same, but the frames and text AND the images are all there and can all be used and modified as if it was a native Scribus file.
So, I was not expecting any problems at all !!
So lesson learnt - IDML is a useful way of extracting information from an InDesign file - but not a recommended way of producing a workable finished Scribus file
I am very happy to report back now - that ALL images with drop shadows are visible and there is NO beach ball of death anymore.
I am still struggling with the interface, I am one of those people who likes to use less clicks of the mouse if possible. In the drop shadow pane it takes TWO clicks to tick the tick boxes - WHY? I have also noted that when trying to add an outline to text in the Paragraph/character styles editor, the outline colour does not appear highlighted at the bottom, so you cannot select the colour - you have to go back and open the window again - outlines work fine in the text pane though.

I don't know what it is with these clicks. It seems you need to select an item from the Drop Shadow list of operations, THEN you can change it. I don't know if it's possible, but it would be more convenient if the item was selected (highlighted) simply by hovering over it. This is how most of the spin-boxes work -- you just hover over them and use the mouse wheel to change the value.

Greg


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[Christoph Schäfer]

Gesendet: Montag, 05. November 2018 um 15:27 Uhr
Betreff: Re: [scribus] scribus Digest, Vol 128, Issue 3

Post by Colin Madwolf

Hi Colin,
Since I don't have any way of generating IDML files, I have never had a chance to try out importing them. I have imported PDF pages, and while this works, what this gives you is a group of groups of vector objects. AT the lowest level of ungrouping, even the font glyphs are vectors. Text can be exported from Adobe Reader if that's an option.
One of the problems with these import methods is that you still may end up with something that is not any more usable for the future.
Greg

Hi Greg
Well, on the face of it IDML imported files load quickly considering the size of the file and look relatively normal compared to the InDesign file - of course the fonts are not the same, but the frames and text AND the images are all there and can all be used and modified as if it was a native Scribus file.
So, I was not expecting any problems at all !!
So lesson learnt - IDML is a useful way of extracting information from an InDesign file - but not a recommended way of producing a workable finished Scribus file
I am very happy to report back now - that ALL images with drop shadows are visible and there is NO beach ball of death anymore.
I am still struggling with the interface, I am one of those people who likes to use less clicks of the mouse if possible. In the drop shadow pane it takes TWO clicks to tick the tick boxes - WHY? I have also noted that when trying to add an outline to text in the Paragraph/character styles editor, the outline colour does not appear highlighted at the bottom, so you cannot select the colour - you have to go back and open the window again - outlines work fine in the text pane though.

I don't know what it is with these clicks. It seems you need to select an item from the Drop Shadow list of operations, THEN you can change it. I don't know if it's possible, but it would be more convenient if the item was selected (highlighted) simply by hovering over it. This is how most of the spin-boxes work -- you just hover over them and use the mouse wheel to change the value.
Greg

It's no secret that the Drop Shadow pane sucks. It's often unresponsive and unnecessarily complicated to use. IIRC, Franz introduced the current layout a while back just for testing purposes, and ever since it seems no-one found the time to revert it back to its original layout, which was more in line with rest of the UI.


Christoph

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